please at least tell me the genre
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jumpingjacktrash:
there’s this tendency on tumblr to promote books or movies or whatever by listing their… idk what to call it… intersectionality score? like “this is about a non-binary disabled mongolian and a lesbian abuse survivor” ok nice but is it a romance or a murder mystery or what?
i’m as hungry for representation as anyone else but i do choose my fiction by what the dang story is about idk about y’all
so maybe try to remember to mention that in passing
like i think it’s pretty cool that one of the best monsters in ‘puzzle and dragons’ is in a wheelchair but i still don’t put him in my party unless i want a fire damage multiplier, you know? it’s like that
check out this badass combat wheelchair tho
i think putting death spikes on your chair should become a Thing
yeah like jem and i have had a bunch of conversations about our fantasy novel like that— we want it to be as diverse and representative as actual real life is, not a bland whitewashed shitshow, but tumblr’s really joyless, finger-waggy sort of promotion of diverse fiction really turns us off. like when someone posts ‘do you like lesbians? you should read this book!’ i’m like, no? thanks? i saw a book that was being promoted as pretty much just ‘this has a woman who’s x, a woman who’s y, and a woman who’s z, and none of them are ever objectified or disrespected!’ like ok but what’s the plot. don’t Girls Can Do It To at me and not tell me what the It even is! or that there’s gays that don’t die and i should be excited about it when you totally undersell whether they’re not dying at being pirates or spies or starship captains or what.
like i definitely want to write a fantasy novel that’s nothing but a daring parade of multiracial bisexuality from one end to the other but also i want it to be a good fantasy novel, not half a bland romance and half a lecture on inclusivity.
edit: i don’t mean to take a dig at romance as a genre. just bland romances. like the ‘this could be anything from a bad harry/draco to a bad dean/castiel to a bad tony/steve’ kind of bland.
yeah, exactly. like when seebs and i talk about ‘stalemate’ we may mention the multiracial queer romance occasionally but mostly we talk about the worldbuilding and the plot. if i were going to make a promo for it i wouldn’t be like “one of the protagonists is racially mixed!” i’d be like “there’s a baby dragon!”
Yep. I’m glad if you like that both main characters in my latest book are woc, and I’m cool with it if you read it because of that, but… I’m not sure THIS HAS TWO WOC IN IT is or even should be a selling point?
I think rep for me is more of a cherry on top than it is the main selling point when I look for books to read, shows to watch, etc etc etc.Like, it’s something that I *want* in the media I get into but it’s not the primary thing I look for when I’m looking for new stuff and I’m not going to automatically be dissuaded from certain media just because it doesn’t have certain rep in it. The first thing I look for is genres I like. Then I look for plots that are interesting to me. If I then have, say, two books both in a genre that I like and both with an interesting plot but one has a queer main character and the other doesn’t then I’ll probably read the book with the queer character first but the fact that there’s a queer character in the story is secondary to the story being one that I think I’ll like. And, on the other end of things, if a piece of media has a ton of rep in it but it’s in a genre I know I don’t like or the summary of the story doesn’t appeal to me, that rep alone isn’t enough to make me enjoy it if my interest in the actual story and the characters beyond whatever check boxes they tick off isn’t there.
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a-rinna:
fierceawakening:
jumpingjacktrash:
roachpatrol:
jumpingjacktrash:
jumpingjacktrash:
jumpingjacktrash:
there’s this tendency on tumblr to promote books or movies or whatever by listing their… idk what to call it… intersectionality score? like “this is about a non-binary disabled mongolian and a lesbian abuse survivor” ok nice but is it a romance or a murder mystery or what?
i’m as hungry for representation as anyone else but i do choose my fiction by what the dang story is about idk about y’all
so maybe try to remember to mention that in passing
like i think it’s pretty cool that one of the best monsters in ‘puzzle and dragons’ is in a wheelchair but i still don’t put him in my party unless i want a fire damage multiplier, you know? it’s like that
check out this badass combat wheelchair tho
i think putting death spikes on your chair should become a Thing
yeah like jem and i have had a bunch of conversations about our fantasy novel like that— we want it to be as diverse and representative as actual real life is, not a bland whitewashed shitshow, but tumblr’s really joyless, finger-waggy sort of promotion of diverse fiction really turns us off. like when someone posts ‘do you like lesbians? you should read this book!’ i’m like, no? thanks? i saw a book that was being promoted as pretty much just ‘this has a woman who’s x, a woman who’s y, and a woman who’s z, and none of them are ever objectified or disrespected!’ like ok but what’s the plot. don’t Girls Can Do It To at me and not tell me what the It even is! or that there’s gays that don’t die and i should be excited about it when you totally undersell whether they’re not dying at being pirates or spies or starship captains or what.
like i definitely want to write a fantasy novel that’s nothing but a daring parade of multiracial bisexuality from one end to the other but also i want it to be a good fantasy novel, not half a bland romance and half a lecture on inclusivity.
edit: i don’t mean to take a dig at romance as a genre. just bland romances. like the ‘this could be anything from a bad harry/draco to a bad dean/castiel to a bad tony/steve’ kind of bland.
yeah, exactly. like when seebs and i talk about ‘stalemate’ we may mention the multiracial queer romance occasionally but mostly we talk about the worldbuilding and the plot. if i were going to make a promo for it i wouldn’t be like “one of the protagonists is racially mixed!” i’d be like “there’s a baby dragon!”
Yep. I’m glad if you like that both main characters in my latest book are woc, and I’m cool with it if you read it because of that, but… I’m not sure THIS HAS TWO WOC IN IT is or even should be a selling point?
I think rep for me is more of a cherry on top than it is the main selling point when I look for books to read, shows to watch, etc etc etc.Like, it’s something that I *want* in the media I get into but it’s not the primary thing I look for when I’m looking for new stuff and I’m not going to automatically be dissuaded from certain media just because it doesn’t have certain rep in it. The first thing I look for is genres I like. Then I look for plots that are interesting to me. If I then have, say, two books both in a genre that I like and both with an interesting plot but one has a queer main character and the other doesn’t then I’ll probably read the book with the queer character first but the fact that there’s a queer character in the story is secondary to the story being one that I think I’ll like. And, on the other end of things, if a piece of media has a ton of rep in it but it’s in a genre I know I don’t like or the summary of the story doesn’t appeal to me, that rep alone isn’t enough to make me enjoy it if my interest in the actual story and the characters beyond whatever check boxes they tick off isn’t there.
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